Hi guys; littlebird askt me to check one of his builds, and it gave me a wonderfull idea for a team build
it is about givin the enemy team all conditions we* need the next profession

2warriors(must have ViM(victory is mine))
2rangers(must have dazed arrow)
1 mess(must have condition spredding, power block our migraine)
1ele(must be nuker)
2 monks(just make sure you have some builds like(WoH, SoR, RC,...)

rose and grrey have allready help us test the part
and i must say we did quite well

if anybody wants to help, we need every profession from the list except for 1 warrior, 1 ele and 1 ranger

if you want more information about this, just post a message on this topic our pm me on guild wars, my name is the snowkiller


*=we: me and my brother(snow and littlebird)

We tested half the team in AB, ideally we would need to test it against a couple of existing team builds (be they HA or GvG builds) - if we could get enough people together for two teams it would help to iron out problems (if any) before further refining the team in HA or GvG. As the rangers use Virulence to inflict a number of conditions on the enemy, it would be useful for players to use a Rune of Purity to reduce the time they are diseased for (as Virulence causes disease, and disease spreads to all nearby creatures of the same type).

Any feedback from people with PvP experience would be great.

I cant say much as there's no specific builds
but i think this could be easily countered by an RC/ recovery men body and soul etc. Conditions are easily removed

I would say give the mesmer at least fragility + migraine for the possible RC.

Also there's less defense in this team build which makes it kinda tricky for the monks. Maybe leave out one ranger for a 3 -man backline 3-mid (nuker ranger mes) 2 up front

frizz, the second ranger is indeed not fully sure of, but he would cause the dazed condtion, and yes i said we would use migraine

allso, you don't see that much rc anymore
+ if you have the 2 mes skills then we can sort the build out togheter

you dont see that much Rc anymore? wtf? ;p
been playing allmost for a whole week Heroes ascent now and i still see lot's of balanced teams with an RC standardly.'

Dazed is easily removed, with a migraine on your team i doubt you need much more dazing. But with good coordination it probably could work out.

A 3-man backline is very common. with a two man backline usually one or two of the other professions is a paragon or ranger and takes wards prot spirits and/or defensive shouts.


Uhm what other things you should think of is that HA and GVG require different  tactics. Like in HA you stay together and need to be able to run relics capture points and what not so a really broad set of abilities.
(ele and rangers could take run skills to run relics, the two monk backline here is weak as most teams either have alot of pressure or at least two thumpers/melee pressure that's too much for just the two monks.)

In GvG it's more that you need one flag runner. splitting capabilities and still being able to survive.
(Like here the ele could go flag running, one warrior could split up with a ranger. again the two monk backline makes it hard to handle split gvg situations. so one monk plus the flag runner or ranger could move back to base to handle the split of the other team, but then you'll leave one monk to heal the other 5 team members. so not rly convenient.)

Btw im not saying this team build is bad or anything.. just giving suggestions and trying to help.

frizz : first of all the last thing you said, i didn't say you said it was bad(i just love to arrgue alltough i can't spell the word )

now back to the top : the last time i saw RC was about eeuumm 4 months ago
dazed is easly removed but......in"monk terms"dazed is just an other codition that they remove, every condition they can remove fast if they have RC
the migraine(or power block) is just so it would take longer alltough RC doesen't have a long casting time
but if we have a warrior, our elle constantly aggro on the monk, doesen't he/she have to heal him self then?
the monk are not gonna just keep on RCing when they themselfs are under attack

eeuummm not everything that i common is not allways the best

and this is still testing, i can't even find enough people,(think i'll have to put it for a stop)

Uhm I observed some top GvG's played in HA all week and i have seen it most of the time. RC's don't go to AB.
Coordinated teams call when dazed.
Most monk PvP builds have holy veil for those nasty hexes or an expel Ritualist.

An RC doesn't heal himself because it relies on two other monks or healers most of the time.