I'm probably setting up something competitive pretty much soon.
It's very simple, I just hope we can keep it friendly and fun.

The idea.
The idea is to make ladders for one versus one matches and possible for teams.
I'm not really sure how i'm gonna do it. Like one profession only per ladder, or only a mixed ladder. (like an all warrior ladder for the best 1v1-warrior one for elementalist.. etc and offcourse a mixed one is with all kinds of professions just the one you choose.
My first idea leads to one prof ladders. So a warrior ladder, Ranger Ladder, etc.

The Rules.
Offcourse there might be people saying they did this and that or have friends just to get higher on the ladder.
A few standard rules would be:
- Both players, the winner and the loser will submit their match and who won and who lost.
- Losing means losing 2 points, winning is gaining 3 points of rating. Rank depends on the rating.
- To ensure that people won't just play ten times against the same player just to get points and get higher it's only possible to get points from a match against one player once per week. (yet to be determined if this will be one week or not :P) With this i mean:
In a ladder with player 1 and player 2. They can only submit a match between them every week.
- To further ensure that Matches are played fair and are actually played (like two people could just boost one player and say they played a match) there will be a "official" with them to ensure the match is played fair.


1v1-rules:
- Any skill
- One prof per Ladder
- No flags
- not using NPC's (luring the opponent towards the NPc's)
- Win: the other opponent at 60 DP or at resign.
- if time runs out and NPC's begin to run around: restart match?
- one official maybe in the match or outside.

Anyways these are jsut idea'.. if anyone want to help me giving some input or idea's... that's much appreciated

I could volunteer to referee the matches, seeing as I'm the least likely to be biased..

would be nice ..lol.
all the ulres is just to make it a bit fair.. because else you can endlessly fight against eachother and get high on the ladder. Offcourse it's just meant as fun anbd maybe as a bit of training perhaps i dunno
just wonder if people are actually itnerested..:P

I sure am
But we ARE making 10 different ladders then?
1 necro, 1 ele, 1 monk, 1...
I think that would be honest, as some professions rlly have the advantage over others here. Necromancers for example are VERY bad at 1 on 1. And not everybody has many skills for all the professions.
Though we can start with the ladders in which ppl are interested most. I'm guessing that 'll be warrior, dervish, ele, ranger and sin xD

Great idea  - I would definitely be in it sounds fun.

I do have a couple of questions (you may not know the answer yet)

1. If we go with professions ladders, is it primary profession skills only?

2. Will the venue remain the same, change, or are the players free to choose where they fight?

3. If two players are very mismatched in terms of skill or experience, will there be a handicap system (for example the more experienced player is only allowed four skills or cannot take an elite skill). I'm not thinking of this to belittle a less experienced player, but because it's not much fun to just go in and get ganked.

4. Where will the scores be kept? How will we access the scores?

1. either all skills allowed, or one build. It matters little imo. Sure for example with an assassin you can expect blind.. or you get something weird like reckless haste..:O it's about fun the ones at the top of the ladder just show which person is the most inventive.. 1v1 is like no use at all (except in AB occasionally) most builds are very gimmicky :P

2. they're free to choose who they fight and where they fight. It's challenge based. If one challenges another that player can either accept or decline. Decline would mean minus one point. the challenger jsut says it in alliance chat, the one that is challenged has to decide  wether to decline or accept, at a point where that decision takes too long.. automatic decline and minus one point. Offcourse the challenged person has to be online first.(no discussions just "I, White Frizzles, Challenge thee! Roseanna Beckett!" is fine :P)

3. No handicap system that way, I think it's unfair towards the more experienced players. What IS possible is that the more experienced player can give an advantage like one elite 4 skills bla bla.. and then name it a handicap match. winning from the more experienced player would be not 3 but 2 points.. if the experienced player wins he gets 4 points. for both losing player gets only minus 1. BUT this is only when the less-experienced player challenges. Other way around might be just stupid :P Declining a handicap match costs nothing.

4. On the forum i guess, I would probably suggest a new forum maybe or a totally new forum..(i dont mind, this one is kinda slow)
wether we work with referees or on a both submit system or just believe that ppl are playing fair. I guess several people could verify online when someone challegnes the other...? i dunno or challenges happen on the forum..but i dunno. Multiple challengesat one person should also not be possible if one challenge is standing then noone else can challenge that person (would be unfair ..multiple people challenge one and he drops in ranks because of not accepting them all)

So maybe this: with everything in the first post:
All skills available, people with not every skill can only play handicapped matches (?) or ar registered as (handicapped) until they say for themselves that they aren't anymore.
Added-Handicap determined/agreed by both players
the rank-boards on the forum.
Players challenge eachother.
Points get submitted by both players in seperate forum, or PMed on the forum towards the ranking moderators.

Rating points:
Win: 3
Win with added handicap*: 4
Win from handicapped player: 2
Lose: -2
Declining a normal match when in top 20% of all players**: -1
Declining added-handicapped match: nothing
Declining normal match not in top 20% of all players: nothing
Cheating: -(5 + rank)

* added handicap means a handicap added to a non handicapped player, so that people without  a handicap are encouraged to play against handicapped players with a certain handicap. (ugh)
** meaning: with 10 people the top 2 players cant decline freely with 100 the top 20 cant decline freely  

--Last edited by Frizz on 2008-09-08 01:33:12 --

Probably a good idea that a challenge is made when the challenger knows the challengee (yes, I know it's not a real word) is available. It seems kind of unfair that you could lose points because you're an hour into Fissure of Woe and someone challenges you there and then. Perhaps ask if a player is busy before issuing a challenge? I dunno...

I think challenges over the forums would be best, time to prepare and such.

only top players would loose points..*shrug* seems fair enough.